NARDWUAR: Who are you?
Yeah, who are you? You are Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick! On the Nardwuar The Human Serviette Radio Show here today, there is me, Nardwuar, the host, but we also have Mark Kleiner here. Say something, Mark.
So, Tom, Tom Petersson. You really are Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, aren't you?
Well, Tom of Cheap Trick, a friend of mine wrote you a letter a few years ago when she was fourteen years old, and she was pledged her undying love for you. It's been twenty years and no reply! And what she wrote, and what she asked you, "What gives, oh strong-jawed one with the perfect aquiline nose and long curly ringlets? (sigh)" What's going on, Tom? Why so long and no reply?
She did! Twenty years and no reply!
She loves your long curly ringlets. I must say, the other night you were really lookin' good! You still have the best hair in rock 'n' roll!
Who do you think is the heir to the best hair in rock 'n' roll, not that you're finished or anything? But who else has good hair these days? Amazing locks of hair? Who else is up there in the hair look? I think the best hair in show business was Sid Vicious.
Where are you phoning from, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick?
Calgary, Alberta, I think, to be exact.
Thank you very much. We're at the Stampede.
It's in July.
Cheap Trick! And you are Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick! And Tom, can we open the phone line and take a few callers? Will that be okay?
It's really Tom Petersson live here on the Nardwuar the Human Serviette radio show!
That's okay. Just having your voice there is important.
One thing I was curious though, in twenty-one years as a band, I've heard you guys have taken on non-music jobs. Like there was that rumour that Bun E. was a roofer in the 1980s.
There's been no side-jobs that Cheap Trick has been doing on the side. No roofing, nothing else?
Do you think if Bun E. can quit smoking that Rick will ever take off the hat? Will the hat ever come off, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick?
Is "Southern Girls" about southern Canadian girls?
It really is?
Oh yes. And actually we have a caller for you, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick. Caller, are you there?
You have a question for Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick!
Hello. Go ahead, James.
James was phoning from a dump truck and all he gets is that answer, Tom?
They played the other night at Studebaker's Cabaret, where Dee Snider and Warrant are playing!
Okay, James. Thanks for phoning in. And, doot doola doot doot...
Okay. We're speaking here live on the phone here with Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, and it's me, Nardwuar the Human Serviette on the Nardwuar the Human Serviette radio show. We also have Mark Kleiner, EX of the Sister Lovers here. And if you want to speak to Tom Petersson- Or Mark. I was curious, Tom. What do you think the Posies did wrong? They've broken up! The Posies! Your friends! That sucks.
What do you think they did wrong, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick?
It's kind of sad almost because Enuff Z'Nuff- Speaking of bad luck, but a band that stays together and has now been thrown off the Cheap Trick tribute album after they did "Everything Works If You Let It."
It's on the web page!
Isn't it kind of sad though, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick? Enuff Z'nuff were keeping the Chicago spirit alive. Enuff Z'Nuff are amazing!
What!? You're not a big Enuff Znuff-
And we have Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick here. Now, Tom, Robin and Rick cowrote a song for Motley Crue on their new record, didn't they?
Isn't there a new Motley Crue album coming with contributions from Rick and Robin?
Well, what do you think about-
What do you think about this glam obsession that Rick and Robin seem to have? They have a glam obsession and I see you are rebelling because you are playing a '60s Vox bass for an '80s power ballad. That was amazing! You were playing a '60s Vox bass on "Ghost Town," the ballad. That was great!
We don't mean that in a bad way because I love power ballads.
On this tour here, Tom Petersson of the rock 'n' roll band Cheap Trick, you've been playing-
Oh, it wasn't?
The last time you played here in Vancouver, you played the Commodore Ballroom. Did you feel embarassed when Gary Busey jumped on stage? He was apparently totally ripped on cocaine for your encore. Do you remember that in Vancouver? Gary Busey?
Mark, do you want to go ahead with this?
It looked like he might have been into hallucinogenics a bit.
Speaking of the 1990s, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, would you ever consider having the Muffs as an opening band again?
Yeah, they were going to go tour with you but something happened. They opened for you at one time.
Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick! This is really Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick!
You are Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick. Now, were you in Cheap Trick when Cheap Trick played all the USO troop type things? Did you ever play on an aircraft carrier?
Well, how do you feel-
Was it John Brant who was in the band?
How do you feel about having your head pasted over by John Brant's image on the cover of Standing on the Edge?
What is John Brant doing these days?
Oh that's very good. And you're Tom Petersson of the rock 'n' roll band Cheap Trick. I was actually in the library the other day and I came across a book called One American Must Die by Kurt Carlson who is Bun E.'s brother. It was an incredible book called One American Must Die, and the hostage who must die- it was about this flight that got taken hostage in Beirut- was the brother of the guy in Cheap Trick!
It's in the book. It's Kurt Carlson-
The name of the book is One American Must Die.
The name of the book is One American Must Die. What do you know about this? This was Bun E.'s brother who was taken hostage in Beirut. You weren't in the band at the time, but it seems that Bun E. was trying to concoct a bizarre plan to rescue his brother.
Yes! It says in the book. Quoting from the book here, "Bun E. Carlos, Carlson's brother and drummer for the rock group Cheap Trick, was involved in a mysterious plan to rescue his brother." And apparently in the book, these guys- because you guys in Cheap Trick had played on an aircraft carrier, and you had met some marines and these marines said, "Hey, we'll bust out your brother if you make this Lebanese guy a rock star!" Basically they said they will rescue him for rockstardom. It turned out that Reagan got the hostages released somehow, but before that there was going to be this bargain for releasing the brother of the guy in Cheap Trick that would make the guy a rock star!
Do you know anything about this at all, Tom?
Please! Please! I know you haven't-
No, it's not April Fool's. It's no joke. People can actually check this out. One American Must Die: A Hostage's Personal Account of the Hijacking of Flight 847 by Kurt Carlson.
But do you remember anything? You do know that he was taken hostage, don't you?
Okay, well, verification! But you didn't hear about the mysterious plan to rescue his brother?
You were being pasted over at that time.
Apparently Red Ant scrapped the video for "Say Goodbye" because they wanted you to reshoot it in California. Is that true, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick?
So it wasn't the label telling you to redo it then.
You really love Canadian radio, don't you! You love Canadian radio, don't you, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick?
Canadian radio is great, isn't it?
Tom, being an unbiased observer-
-who do you think made Yoko Ono so angry that both Rick Nielsen and Bun E. Carlos' parts, their contributions to John Lennon's Double Fantasy record were nixed. Who do you think made Yoko so angry, Rick or Bun E.? Who do you think?
But who's the troublemaker? Who do you think would make Yoko angry, Rick or Bun E.?
This is Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick! The bassist of Cheap Trick!
I was curious, Tom, you had a solo album out.
Has that been reissued? What's the bucks on that? I've got a copy of your solo album. Is that worth anything nowadays?
Why is that?
Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, what was it like opening for the Doobie Brothers? Wasn't that kind of a career low-light, opening for the Doobies?
No, this was in the olden days opening for the Doobies, didn't you?
What are some of the groups that it was a low to open for?
What did they do wrong?
Why wouldn't Ray Davies be nice?
So he needed somebody else?
Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, you're a real gearhound, aren't you? You're a real gearhound.
Like those Rickenbacker amps you had on stage! Those were amazing!
Where did you get those ones from?
Jimmy Page's amps? And they had them in storage ever since?
A friend of mine by the name Greg Garlick-
What do you mean, "Yiiick?"
I know, he's been teased for years about his name, but Greg really wants to get rid of his Hamer twelve-string bass, nineteen-
But he's got a Hamer twelve-string bass. 1980 double cut away, sunburst finish, flawless pristine condition. Never played at all. He wants to get rid of it and he wants you to buy it!
Didn't Hamer make the first twelve-string bass for you?
So you guys aren't affiliated with them anymore?
So what do you think Greg can get for that bass if he's trying to sell it? People are going to be paying big bucks for it because it is an unused 1980 Hamer twelve-string-
You don't have Todd Howorth with you, do you?
But that was an added draw, the guy from Frehley's Comet, I mean he went on to... right in between there with Ace and John and-
He was in Frehley's Comet. Do you remember them?
Who do you think does the best Cheap Trick cover version that you've heard lately? Are you happy with the Cheap Trick cover album? I guess Enuff Z'Nuff's not on it so you're happy with that.
I mean, is the Posies' version of "Surrender" any good? Can they really do justice to that song? Can anyone really do it justice?
Do you ever look at those guys and go, "Come on. Contrived."
Everclear. Like let's pretend we're all famous drug-addled people. I'm just curious. I mean, you being a rocker, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, you've been around the business. Do you ever look at these bands and say, "Okay, we see the ones that are true and the ones that are real." And look at something like Everclear and go, "What the hell are you trying to prove here?" Don't you just look at this stuff coming out now like these lame copying bands and go, "Come on, what's going on here?"
I've got a question from the internet. The drum bit from "Gonna Raise Hell" was too hard for Bun E. to handle so you guys got Jeff Porcaro, session veteran and drummer for Toto who died in a gardening accident, to do that.
I think it was a cocaine overdose while gardening. That's like saying Otis Redding died in a boating accident.
Thanks for talking to me on the Nardwuar the Human Serviette radio show. We're going to end the interview with "Up the Creek." What do you remember about the song "Up the Creek?" You weren't in the band at that time, were you, Tom Petersson?
It's a great movie! Up the Creek!
It's amazing! It's one of the classic 1980 movies that are out there, along with Shakes the Clown-
Well, it's kind of the same genre. You know, Up the Creek, Shakes the Clown- they're just classic. Firewalker.... So thanks very much for being on the show today, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick. We really appreciate you taking the time with the callers. That was very nice of you.
Why should people care about Cheap Trick in the 1990s, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick?
Okay, well keep on rockin' in the free world.
And doot doola doot doo...
Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, doot doola doot doo...
Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, doot doola doot doo....
...Doot doola doot doo...
Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, doot doola doot doo...
Well, ahh, we don't want to give you any hints. Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, doot doola doot doo.... Doot doola doot doo...
Okay, follow this-
I'm in a band. I'm playing the keyboards with you, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick. I'm helping you along with this. Doot doola doot doo...
Close! Okay, the syllables are right, there!
The syllables! That's pretty good. Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, doot doola doot doo...
Actually, she is still.... Did you ever run into her at all, Tom?
No way, she never came to one of your gigs, did she?
What did you do with her?
Well not you per se because you were happily married, but the other members, say, Rick.
Well, you were at that time.
Okay, you know what we're going to do? Just hold on for one second! We're going to get a caller to do it for you!
We need a caller to show Tom Petersson how to end the interview because, I guess, Tom, you're from Rockford, Illinois. We have a caller! Caller, are you there?
Okay, caller. Doot doola doot doo...
Thank you, caller. Okay, Tom, did you get that?
Please, Tom, we're ending up here. Doot doola doot doo...
Okay, we need the caller to phone back. What we're going to do is-
Can we please have a female caller for Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick so they can explain to Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick how to end this interview? Okay. Caller, are you there?
Okay, now caller, can you- Where are you from? What's your name?
No, we're still alive! We're still alive! Please, let's get through this, Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick. Kim, help me... Doot doola doot doo...
Doot doola doot doo...
Doot doola doot doo... (pause) Kim, what happened?
It's your turn, Tom!
Doot doola doot doo... Kim, help me, please.
Hey, Kim, how old are you?
Doot doola doot doo...
Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick, doot doola doot doo...
Okay, Kim will start it and Tom will end it. Okay, this is together: Cheap Trick and Kim.
Wait a second! This is Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick! Don't call him pathetic!
One more time, Kim, take him through this.
Okay! There we go! Thank you! Thank you, Kim! Well, thank you, Tom, are you there? You were really good, Tom Petersson.