Nardwuar: Wow, so a fan gave you the Raw Power tapes, that's
Rollins: No, no, no, no. They were in a studio and we heard about
it, and we were in Holland at the time, and our guitar player
contacted a friend in Belgium who knew where the location of the
tapes were, and we had someone bring them down, and we blue-labelled
them back to America, and we gave them back to Iggy in New York.
'Cause they shouldn't be stolen, they're his, you know, there
with him.....uh, let's see, SOA demos, nothing would ever happen
with that stuff. I don't even know where those tapes are≠
Nardwuar: 'Cause some of them have been bootlegged.
Rollins: Sure, well, let the bootleggers have it... Roky Erickson?
I couldn't "work out" with Roky Erickson. No plans to
get any more tattoos.... Let's see....
Nardwuar: The Shed with Greg Ginn? 'Cause it was in Punk Planet
'zine right here. (Nardwuar puts Punk Planet zine in Henry's lap,
and his hand gets pretty close to....) Oh sorry for touching you
Rollins: It's pretty close to the "goodies" there!
Nardwuar: It was! It was! I'm sorry!
Rollins: You're touching my "soupcan," buddy!
Nardwuar: I'm sorry about that, Henry Rollins! But it's said,"It's
constructed like a house." "It used to be my Father's
study," Greg Ginn says in this Punk Planet exposť.
Rollins: Yeah it's a small cubical square and was stacked up with
Mr. Ginn's paintings and his manuscripts and lots of books and
his paintbrushes. And it had a door hinged to one of the walls
that would fold down into a table that could be pushed back up
again. I just called it "the shed," you know. It was
just kind of this plaster-stucco-moist space. It's still there.
Nardwuar: It is kind of a study then.
Rollins: Yeah, you know, I just called it "the shed."
I never called it a toolshed or anything. But it was where Mr.
Ginn used to sit and write I guess, and do his paintings. And
when I was working on the Ginn's house, me and D. Boon were building
a house for the Ginn's on Awasso Street. Since I was doing so
much construction work they said, we'll just like,"You can
sleep in there," 'cause I had to walk to the site everyday
and go to band practice. So I started living in that shed or study
or whatever in a sleeping bag underneath the desk. And I ended
up living in there on or off for a couple of years and it was....
I was the only one in Black Flag who had his own place to live.
Everyone else would, like, sleep in the practice room. So I had
it pretty good.
Nardwuar: What about the Monks? Have they been deleted from
your label, Infinite Zero? What's going on with the Monks? The
great German beat-band, The Monks, Americans you put them on your
label, which was one of the coolest things. What happened to the
record? Has it been deleted now? What's going on with your record
Rollins: Well, it has been deleted, because Warners dropped the
label. But we're re-releasing it on another label.
Nardwuar: Do you think The Monks will ever come out as a movie,
'cause I heard it was optioned as a movie, and you'd be great
in that movie Henry, don't you think?
Rollins: I think you'd be really good in that movie, Nardwuar.
Nardwuar: Maybe as Gary Burger doing "Monk Stomp"
or something like that?
Rollins: I, you know, I think you could play any one of those
guys. You know you have a certain charisma, which is undoubtable.
No doubt you have a lot of charisma. I like the character that
you're playing. I like it how you can turn it on and turn it off.
It's cute. And, um, your closing question?
Nardwuar: Closing question: Fear. Were you there that night
they played on Saturday Night Live? Were you ever approached to
do Saturday Night Live? You've been on The Dennis Miller Show
tons of times.
Rollins: Well, yes actually. Um≠
Nardwuar: 'Cause how did Belushi, I was just curious, 'cause
using your knowledge, using your "Sit on my face, Stevie
Nicks" knowledge, like how did Belushi hook up with Fear?
Rollins: What kind of knowledge do I have?
Nardwuar: The Rotters? That was an allusion to The Rotters.
Rollins: You're not being disrespectful to me are you?
Nardwuar: No, I was using the Rotters record "Sit on my
face Stevie Nicks." Tom Holliston of NoMeansNo actually knows
one of the guys. He's a big fan of them.
Rollins: Mmm hmm. OK. Do I get to answer the question or do you
want to just talk?
Nardwuar: No, go ahead Henry.
Rollins: You should just interview yourself.... Umm, Belushi lined
up Fear and Black Flag to play on Saturday Night Live. And I was
in Los Angeles, working on the Damaged record when my friends
from Washington went up there to kind of 'disrupt' the procedings
at SNL. And after Lorne Michaels saw what Fear did, they immediately
cancelled our slot on Saturday Night Live. So we never got a chance
to go. But Belushi was a fan of ours. And he was a big supporter
of both bands, especially Fear. But he liked us too. And he tried
to get us on there, 'cause he had a lot of pull there, 'cause
him being who he is. But, it was not to be.
Nardwuar: And finally Henry Rollins, what do you like better,
Boys Next Door, the movie by Penelope Spheeris, or Boys Next Door,
the band starring Nick Cave?
Rollins: I prefer the band.
Nardwuar: Alright! Well keep on rocking in the free world,
Henry! Anything else you'd like add to the people out there at
Rollins: It was wonderful talking to you, and the next time we
do an interview, I'd prefer it if you'd flossed and brush your
teeth, 'cause your breath is really intense.
Nardwuar: Actually I ate at McDonalds this morning. That's
perhaps what's doing that.
Rollins: Thank you for thinking of me.
Nardwuar: Well, you like coffee don't you? Does coffee help
you "poop" at all? Henry?
Rollins: I have no idea.
Nardwuar: And doot doola doot doo
Nardwuar: Henry? Doot doola doot doo
Rollins: (bangs the mike twice against his head)
Thanks to Bev Davies for the Vancouver Black Flag photos and Gregor Schmidt for the Victoria '82' shot!